Kony 2012 is a scam

[pjano]

so I watched this 'Kony 2012' video the other day and thought 'yeah yeah nothing new.' Then I see all these people harping on the internet about it. FFS IT'S JUST A SCAM. IT'S THE BIGGEST MONEY GRAB SINCE THE CARBON TAX

[Jatoba Bokken]

So this is a troll right Pjano?
You're not really asking us to punch you in the face right?
It's getting harder and harder to tell.

[Nuss]

If you want to see some real negativity on this issue, check out some of the threads at Cybergamer.

Their reasoning behind slamming people who support this is: "people have been taking kids as child soldiers for years".

[RumGuT]

look up sam childers that crazy preacher has been shooting the pricks stealing kids since 2000, total boss of a bloke. donate the moneys to him so he can buy better tracking gear and arm his group some more to find the cunt KONY

[RumGuT]

or they could just hire some ex SAS cats who are into merc work for 5 mil and KONY would be gone within the week lol

[pjano]

Kimberley Welsh: My GOD, you people will swallow ANYTHING put in front of you. What happened to checking sources, looking beyond the information to see where it came from and if its valid. The Invisible Children foundation is currently under investigation for fraud - not to mention the moralistically wrong things they have done, like protecting rapists and murders in the Ugandan army which they fund for weapons

[pjano]

I really love how people think 'liking' a video on Facebook is going to achieve anything. Raising 'awareness' my fucking ass. It doesn't matter how 'aware' you are of an issue if you're doing nothing to help solve it except buying some overpriced bracelets off the internet that you can wear out to impress your lame as fuck hipster friends who also think they're super cool.

Guess what? That money isn't going to help the child soldiers of Uganda. The 'filmmakers' are paying themselves $90,000 'salaries'. They spent $8.8 million of the money raised in the 2011 financial year on 'filming and production' costs. They spent $1,444,570 on bullshit Administration costs and $6,584,811? That was their net ASSETS.

You want to help? Go work at a soup kitchen. Fuck, go work at a Vinnies op shop for a day. It might not be as easy as clicking a button and it definitely doesn't seem as 'cool' but at least you're actually doing something that will benefit the people you're trying to help... Not attempting to stir up a military invasion that would devastate an entire population.

Disagree? Jump off the little bandwagon you're riding and either do some research or go fuck yourself

[pjano]

Do you guys have any fucking idea what is going on in East Timor?

[pjano]

Do you know what is going on in North Korea?

[pjano]

Watch this video instead, you might learn something


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrHkKXFRbCI

[Rices]

umadbro???

http://s3.amazonaws.com/www.invisiblechildren.com/images/breakdownofexpenses.jpg

[pjano]

umadbro???

http://s3.amazonaws.com/www.invisiblechildren.com/images/breakdownofexpenses.jpg

LOL dude you got this from their fucking website yes I'm so mad (nods head)

Did you read this comment?
Guess what? That money isn't going to help the child soldiers of Uganda. The 'filmmakers' are paying themselves $90,000 'salaries'. They spent $8.8 million of the money raised in the 2011 financial year on 'filming and production' costs. They spent $1,444,570 on bullshit Administration costs and $6,584,811? That was their net ASSETS.

You want to help? Go work at a soup kitchen. Fuck, go work at a Vinnies op shop for a day. It might not be as easy as clicking a button and it definitely doesn't seem as 'cool' but at least you're actually doing something that will benefit the people you're trying to help... Not attempting to stir up a military invasion that would devastate an entire population.

[pjano]

As a scientist I am just fucking pissed off that people get away with stuff like this

[Rices]

90k isn't much for a professional film-maker O_o. If a 30+ year old film-maker with this type of experience worked in a corporation you'd be earning 200k+ a year

[pjano]

90k isn't much for a professional film-maker O_o. If a 30+ year old film-maker with this type of experience worked in a corporation you'd be earning 200k+ a year

this is 90k per day

[pjano]

omg I found people that think the same as me http://www.gamearena.com.au/forums/General/viewtopic.php?t=156654

[pjano]

http://tumblr.thedailywh.at/post/18909727859/on-kony-2012-i-honestly-wanted-to-stay-as-far

[astro_ant]

omg I found people that think the same as me
Oh so theres more than one fucking retard in the world? Who would've thought?

[Rices]

Lol pjano the quote you copied says 90k salaries. Salary = Yearly pay

I have no view on Kony. Im mainly just trololing

[RumGuT]

As a scientist I am just fucking pissed off that people get away with stuff like this
your a what now? lol

[pjano]

I honestly wanted to stay as far away as possible from KONY 2012, the latest fauxtivist fad sweeping the web (remember “change your Facebook profile pic to stop child abuse”?), but you clearly won’t stop sending me that damn video until I say something about it, so here goes:

Stop sending me that video.

The organization behind Kony 2012 — Invisible Children Inc. — is an extremely shady nonprofit that has been called ”misleading,” “naive,” and “dangerous” by a Yale political science professor, and has been accused by Foreign Affairs of “manipulat[ing] facts for strategic purposes.” They have also been criticized by the Better Business Bureau for refusing to provide information necessary to determine if IC meets the Bureau’s standards.

Additionally, IC has a low two-star rating in accountability from Charity Navigator because they won’t let their financials be independently audited. That’s not a good thing. In fact, it’s a very bad thing, and should make you immediately pause and reflect on where the money you’re sending them is going.

By IC’s own admission, only 31% of all the funds they receive go toward actually helping anyone [pdf]. The rest go to line the pockets of the three people in charge of the organization, to pay for their travel expenses (over $1 million in the last year alone) and to fund their filmmaking business (also over a million) — which is quite an effective way to make more money, as clearly illustrated by the fact that so many can’t seem to stop forwarding their well-engineered emotional blackmail to everyone they’ve ever known.

And as far as what they do with that money:


The group is in favour of direct military intervention, and their money supports the Ugandan government’s army and various other military forces. Here’s a photo of the founders of Invisible Children posing with weapons and personnel of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army. Both the Ugandan army and Sudan People’s Liberation Army are riddled with accusations of rape and looting, but Invisible Children defends them, arguing that the Ugandan army is “better equipped than that of any of the other affected countries”, although Kony is no longer active in Uganda and hasn’t been since 2006 by their own admission. These books each refer to the rape and sexual assault that are perennial issues with the UPDF, the military group Invisible Children is defending.

Let’s not get our lines crossed: The Lord’s Resistance Army is bad news. And Joseph Kony is a very bad man, and needs to be stopped. But propping up Uganda’s decades-old dictatorship and its military arm, which has been accused by the UN of committing unspeakable atrocities and itself facilitated the recruitment of child soldiers, is not the way to go about it.

The United States is already plenty involved in helping rout Kony and his band of psycho sycophants. Kony is on the run, having been pushed out of Uganda, and it’s likely he will soon be caught, if he isn’t already dead. But killing Kony won’t fix anything, just as killing Osama bin Laden didn’t end terrorism. The LRA might collapse, but, as Foreign Affairs points out, it is “a relatively small player in all of this — as much a symptom as a cause of the endemic violence.”

Myopically placing the blame for all of central Africa’s woes on Kony — even as a starting point — will only imperil many more people than are already in danger.

Sending money to a nonprofit that wants to muck things up by dousing the flames with fuel is not helping. Want to help? Really want to help? Send your money to nonprofits that are putting more than 31% toward rebuilding the region’s medical and educational infrastructure, so that former child soldiers have something worth coming home to.

Here are just a few of those charities. They all have a sparkling four-star rating from Charity Navigator, and, more importantly, no interest in airdropping American troops armed to the teeth into the middle of a multi-nation tribal war to help one madman catch another.

The bottom line is, research your causes thoroughly. Don’t just forward a random video to a stranger because a mass murderer makes a five-year-old “sad.” Learn a little bit about the complexities of the region’s ongoing strife before advocating for direct military intervention.

There is no black and white in the world. And going about solving important problems like there is just serves to make all those equally troubling shades of gray invisible.

[pjano]

Lol pjano the quote you copied says 90k salaries. Salary = Yearly pay

EDIT: I'm not going to get into a definition debate anyways I'm off

[RumGuT]

dude.... your pissed off and i get it but its gone viral, this wont. lets just keep politics out of battlefield?

[Rices]

A salary is a form of periodic payment from an employer to an employee, which may be specified in an employment contract. It is contrasted with piece wages, where each job, hour or other unit is paid separately, rather than on a periodic basis.

What your referring to is the wage that is paid out fortnightly/monthly out of your salary.

I R TEH WINZ

EDIT: Awwww

[cheffy10]

Do you guys have any fucking idea what is going on in East Timor?

yeah i have a pretty good idea of what's happened here as i was there just after the war/independence!! there was fucked up shit happening then and still is!!

[M.Lyons]

Wow Pjano, how do you not get stabbed in the street srsly. They mean well regardless of how ineffective their system may be. Your scepticism go beyond the boundaries of pure douchebagery

[Archie]

I honestly wanted to stay as far away as possible from KONY 2012, the latest fauxtivist fad sweeping the web (remember “change your Facebook profile pic to stop child abuse”?), but you clearly won’t stop sending me that damn video until I say something about it, so here goes:

Stop sending me that video.

The organization behind Kony 2012 — Invisible Children Inc. — is an extremely shady nonprofit that has been called ”misleading,” “naive,” and “dangerous” by a Yale political science professor, and has been accused by Foreign Affairs of “manipulat[ing] facts for strategic purposes.” They have also been criticized by the Better Business Bureau for refusing to provide information necessary to determine if IC meets the Bureau’s standards.

Additionally, IC has a low two-star rating in accountability from Charity Navigator because they won’t let their financials be independently audited. That’s not a good thing. In fact, it’s a very bad thing, and should make you immediately pause and reflect on where the money you’re sending them is going.

By IC’s own admission, only 31% of all the funds they receive go toward actually helping anyone [pdf]. The rest go to line the pockets of the three people in charge of the organization, to pay for their travel expenses (over $1 million in the last year alone) and to fund their filmmaking business (also over a million) — which is quite an effective way to make more money, as clearly illustrated by the fact that so many can’t seem to stop forwarding their well-engineered emotional blackmail to everyone they’ve ever known.

And as far as what they do with that money:


The group is in favour of direct military intervention, and their money supports the Ugandan government’s army and various other military forces. Here’s a photo of the founders of Invisible Children posing with weapons and personnel of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army. Both the Ugandan army and Sudan People’s Liberation Army are riddled with accusations of rape and looting, but Invisible Children defends them, arguing that the Ugandan army is “better equipped than that of any of the other affected countries”, although Kony is no longer active in Uganda and hasn’t been since 2006 by their own admission. These books each refer to the rape and sexual assault that are perennial issues with the UPDF, the military group Invisible Children is defending.

Let’s not get our lines crossed: The Lord’s Resistance Army is bad news. And Joseph Kony is a very bad man, and needs to be stopped. But propping up Uganda’s decades-old dictatorship and its military arm, which has been accused by the UN of committing unspeakable atrocities and itself facilitated the recruitment of child soldiers, is not the way to go about it.

The United States is already plenty involved in helping rout Kony and his band of psycho sycophants. Kony is on the run, having been pushed out of Uganda, and it’s likely he will soon be caught, if he isn’t already dead. But killing Kony won’t fix anything, just as killing Osama bin Laden didn’t end terrorism. The LRA might collapse, but, as Foreign Affairs points out, it is “a relatively small player in all of this — as much a symptom as a cause of the endemic violence.”

Myopically placing the blame for all of central Africa’s woes on Kony — even as a starting point — will only imperil many more people than are already in danger.

Sending money to a nonprofit that wants to muck things up by dousing the flames with fuel is not helping. Want to help? Really want to help? Send your money to nonprofits that are putting more than 31% toward rebuilding the region’s medical and educational infrastructure, so that former child soldiers have something worth coming home to.

Here are just a few of those charities. They all have a sparkling four-star rating from Charity Navigator, and, more importantly, no interest in airdropping American troops armed to the teeth into the middle of a multi-nation tribal war to help one madman catch another.

The bottom line is, research your causes thoroughly. Don’t just forward a random video to a stranger because a mass murderer makes a five-year-old “sad.” Learn a little bit about the complexities of the region’s ongoing strife before advocating for direct military intervention.

There is no black and white in the world. And going about solving important problems like there is just serves to make all those equally troubling shades of gray invisible.

Cool copy-paste bro, tell it again.

[Jatoba Bokken]

multiple hostile rambling posts defending points literally nobody has raised.

Hey Pjano.

umadbro? :smug:

[pjano]

lol you fools this is sort of shit is how hitler started

[pjano]

it's just a shame intelligence is such a minority

[Jatoba Bokken]

lol you fools this is sort of shit is how hitler started
it's just a shame intelligence is such a minority

And that is the ball game ladies and gentlemen! Tell everyone to stop drilling; we've hit oil!

The fucking dumbest quote of all time.

[astro_ant]

it's just a shame intelligence is such a minority

and in your case, non-existent.

[pjano]

okay surely you guys can see (like climate change) there's no quick fix. Taking in money to get Kony killed (if he's not already dead) is NOT GOING TO HELP ANYBODY. If you kill Kony somebody else will take his place. It's a completely different political landscape to Australia. Taxing carbon (taking money) IS NOT GOING TO HELP THE ENVIRONMENT. They're not even attempting to use Nuclear energy, make turbines from the southern ocean to lake Eyre, stop using coal or (most importantly) PLANT FUCKING TREES - AN ORGANISM THAT BREATHES IN CO2. Now say somebody killed Julia Gillard or Barack Obama everybody would have a big cry. In Africa NOBODY GIVES A FUCK. PEOPLE DIE ALL THE TIME OVER THERE, UNLIKE IN AUSTRALIA. So stop your fucking diatribes and use your fucking brains you big cry babies

[astro_ant]

waaaaaaaah );

QQ moar noob

[pjano]

look here's the thing: The situation is real. The campaign is a scam. There's nothing wrong with helping these people / raising awareness but just don't give money to Kony 2012

The end

[pjano]

btw don't forget to buy this cool stuff :D
http://invisiblechildrenstore.myshopify.com/

trolling successful

[Rices]

Closing thread. This is a Battlefield forum not a political one.

[Nuss]

Hey so did we stop Kony?